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I was called at work by a local number. I did not recognize the number so I didn't answer. The number then popped up 2 more times within 5 minutes. I saw that I had a voicemail message, and when I checked it it was someone named 'Officer' Shawn Williams stating that he was calling from United Legal Investigative Department and that he needed to speak with me or he was going to contact my manager at work regarding a debt that was owed. Keep in mind he was saying this on my recorded voicemail, which I am sure is a violation of the fdcpa. Before I could even finish listening to the message, they were calling me back again. I picked up the phone, the man asked who he was speaking with and when I identified myself, he started rattling off my social security number and then asked me to verify. I told him that I would speak to him, but I was at work and he needed to call me at a different number (I gave him my cell phone number) and told him it would have to be after 5pm CST. He hung up the phone, then called right back and told me that he wanted to speak to me now, not at my convenience, and I needed to get this cleared up before noon today or he would send the police to my place of business to arrest me. He said that we were speaking on a recorded line that was connected to the courts. I asked him which court, he refused to tell me and kept threatening that I need to worry about paying this debt and not worry about which court it was. I asked him for the name of the original creditor, he would not tell me. He told me that I could 'settle out of court' for $1,094, I asked him to give me a fax number or mailing address so that I could put all of this in writing, he refused to do so. I did a reverse number look up and found an address for United Legal Investigative Dept in Kansas City, MO, I asked if this was correct, and he said 'NO we are based in California', although the number he was calling me from has a Houston TX area code. When I continued to ask for a fax number, he put me on hold to find a 'senior officer'. After being on hold for several minutes I finally hung up, they called me right back and this 'senior officer' was just as belligerent as the first and refused to give me any means to contact them in writing. He basically told me that he didn't care if I told them not to contact me until after 5 pm, and that I needed to take care of this. He said there are 3 outstanding federal charges against me and he named them. I told them I would no longer speak with them by phone if they could not provide me with a means to contact them in writing, since they were badgering & threatening me at my place of employment. Then they hung up on me.

They just called me back 4 more times. When I answered, I told them AGAIN that this was an inconvenient time/place to discuss this & to call me at the number and time that I asked. He said 'If you hang up on me one more time your Social Security Number is going to be blocked!' I asked him to explain what that meant, he said 'That's my problem, not yours.'

I have filed complaints with the Attorney Generals Offices in California, Texas, and Missouri as well as with the Federal Trade Commission. This is insane and they are breaking multiple FDCPA regulations.




This sounds similar to a company called Civil Claims Asset Investigation Services AKA Claims America. The caller ID was likely spoofed and you could probably ultimately trace them back to Buffalo, NY. I would have some fun with them while you're at it since everything they said to you was a lie. If you can record legally in your state, and it's OK with your employer, do so. You might have trouble suing them if you can't nail down who they really are but you sound like an informed consumer and tehy will probably crawl back under their rock before too long. Good luck and have fun!

Edit: What's the number? If it's not spoofed maybe I can call them and have some fun too!

Sub: #1 posted on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 00:46

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Are you in TX? If so...we are a 1 party state.

Sub: #2 posted on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 00:49

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The number that call from is 214-306-5841

Sub: #3 posted on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 20:26

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Huge fdcpa violations. I hope you saved the message.....if you have no way recording the call, have someone at your work listen to it and write down what it said and have the note notorized. You need to find an FDCPA attorney.

Sub: #4 posted on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 20:47

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I also received a call today. They said the name of the company was United National Legal or something along those lines. The guy had a strong accent and was difficult to understand. He proceeded to tell me that there were 3 charges against me, etc. When I asked the name of the company he was working for, he wouldn't answer. I am currently going through PDL consolidation with Langhorne and they seemed to think this company was United Pay. The number that he called from was a Texas number and when I called it back the call went to voice mail which was full. I did file a complaint with the FL AG's office since this is where United Pay is located.

Does anyone have any info on this particular number?

Sub: #5 posted on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 22:15

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I also received a call today. They said the name of the company was United National Legal or something along those lines. The guy had a strong accent and was difficult to understand. He proceeded to tell me that there were 3 charges against me, etc. When I asked the name of the company he was working for, he wouldn't answer. I am currently going through PDL consolidation with Langhorne and they seemed to think this company was United Pay. The number that he called from was a Texas number and when I called it back the call went to voice mail which was full. I did file a complaint with the FL AG's office since this is where United Pay is located.

Does anyone have any info on this particular number?

Sub: #6 posted on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 22:15

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They've called me as well. I have a CA number and a PA number they've called from :( I filed with the CA attorney general and they couldn't do anything from a lack of info.

Sub: #7 posted on Wed, 09/03/2008 - 02:02

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I got scared the first time they called me, and for good reason. I can lose my job for being in "default" on a debt. But this wasn't the case, and I naively paid them off, and when everything was said and done...they called back saying i owed two more loans. So I called the guy out on it and he just said yes or no. I called back this morning to get the name of their lawyers, but too got united legal investigation in New York City. Such garbage

Sub: #8 posted on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 22:36

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i also recieved a called from them stating that they are from the united legal investigation and they wanted to collect a debt that i owed. they stated my social security number aned i told them to give me there name and address so my attorny can contact them since i judt filed bankruptcy they told me that bankruptcy will not help me. they told me that they are with the fbi and they will arrest me if i dont comply. all they gave me was ther telephone number which is 904-239-3968. i told them to contact my attorney and they told mr that they were not my servant and tell my attorney to call them.

Sub: #9 posted on Sat, 03/28/2009 - 01:03

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They are SCAMMERS!! Please do not give them any of your bank information.

Sub: #10 posted on Sat, 03/28/2009 - 02:05

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