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Same name as the debtor, but isn't the debtor.

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Mi wife began getting calls a few months ago- I wasn't aware of it at first. She thought it was simply some scammers. They went on about a judgment against her, but she usually cut them off and hung up. These calls became more frequent and so we traced some of them back to "law firm" in PA, Joel Cardis LLC.

They had my wife's name exactly right, but- really- there is no judgment against her and she owes nothing to anyone (yes- that rare American). So we knew they wrong, but couldn't figure out how this had started. They didn't have her SS number and kept asking for it- she didn't give it to them. They never identified themselves- that didn't give her a good feeling about telling them anything. She has just printed her credit report and it's totally clean. I suppose, if they wanted to, they could come across her SS number by using a computer, but that would cost them time and money.

We reasoned that since the only thing they did know was readily available- the phone number under her name- perhaps the trouble was one of mistaken identity.

I did a Zaba search using her name, including the middle initial, and -lo!- three phone numbers with her name popped up. I tried them and two had been disconnected. The third number answered, but claimed no one with my wife's name was there. In fact, the said no before I had finished giving the name.

OK- I called AT&T (are you beginning to suspect something...?) and found out that, yes, someone with a name exactly the same as my wife had opened the two now-disconnected accounts. One- they were still attempting to collect on. The other had been sold to the debt collectors. The woman at AT&T basically said, that-yes- we know it's not you, but why worry?- they can't do anything to you.

Well- anyone who has received phone calls from these folks know it's very nasty stuff that comes out. I called Joel and told them what was going on- they said they had now wiped the number from their system.

I have my doubts, and am ready for more to come. We will sue- we've done it before and we'll do it again.




FloridaRon

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Sub: #1 Definitely, record any and all phone conversations you have with
Sat, 10/11/2008 - 17:21

Definitely, record any and all phone conversations you have with this CA. Be sure to check if your state is a 1-party or 2-party state when it comes to recording phone calls.

I might also recommend sending them a total cease and desist letter, advising then your wife is not the person they are looking for and they are continuing to harass the wrong person. Just include her name and the phone number they are calling on the letter, they already have that so it's not providing them with nothing they don't already know. I wouldn't release any additional information like address and ESPECIALLY social security number.

I found a website for this "law firm" that includes all their contact information, and it is in PA. The URL is: www(dot)joelcardisllc.com.

just replace the "(dot)" with an actual "."; can't post a live link.

Be sure to send the letter certified mail/return receipt requested; and hold onto that green card once you get it back. Once they receive this letter, and they continue to call after they have received it, then I would definitely sue the stew out of them. And I would be willing to bet my right arm they will continue to call and harass.




paulmergel


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Sub: #2 reply
Sat, 10/11/2008 - 19:41

sad but true ron.that is how bottomfeeders operate.




FloridaRon

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Sub: #3 Yeah, it's a shame the way some CA's harass and incessantly call
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 08:52

Yeah, it's a shame the way some CA's harass and incessantly call third parties like that, even after they are either told the contact information of the person they are looking for, or told not to call back ever again. It's like I say, they treat that third party as a "surrogate debtor" since they can't reach the actual debtor.

I'm going through a pretty similar situation myself, with a CA trying to reach my brother. I have told them at least 3 times I don't talk to my brother, haven't spoken to him in years, and no I can't give him a message since I don't speak to him. If they call one more time, I'm going to sue them!

I've had it!




davidw
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Sub: #4 There is a PA licensed attorney named Joel Cardis Here is his
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 16:22

There is a PA licensed attorney named Joel Cardis

Here is his attorney registration info:http://www.padisciplinaryboard.org/pa_attorney_info.php?id =28101&pdcount=0




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Sub: #5 Joel Cardis....
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 17:49

Oh yes- I know he truly exists, in his evil little demi-monde. What he doesn't know (yet) is that I know the home addresses and phone numbers of most of his associates. I am nothing if not resourceful. The internet is a wonderful thing.
Thank you for the info.




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Sub: #6 I went thru the same situation in GA. from Protocol Recovery Ser
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 01:10

I went thru the same situation in GA. from Protocol Recovery Service; I went to the Secretary of States website and obtained the name and address of the owner and then obtained his home phone number. I Gave him a call one night while he was having dinner. I explained that his employess were calling and harassing me for someone else that didn't live at my address, he promised that he would take care of the problem immediately, I haven't heard from them since then. Guess they didn't like the tables being turned on them when they start receiving calls at night.




alias1958

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Sub: #7 LOL!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Good for you, Guest!!
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 06:55

LOL!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good for you, Guest!!




DirtPoor08
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Sub: #8 Guest, that is SO funny! :D
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 07:50

Guest, that is SO funny! :D




FloridaRon

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Sub: #9 Yeah, pretty novel solution. Maybe I need to try that!
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 08:48

Yeah, pretty novel solution. Maybe I need to try that!




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Sub: #10 post his home number!!
Wed, 10/14/2009 - 11:15

Quote:
Originally Posted byAnonymous
I went thru the same situation in GA. from Protocol Recovery Service; I went to the Secretary of States website and obtained the name and address of the owner and then obtained his home phone number. I Gave him a call one night while he was having dinner. I explained that his employess were calling and harassing me for someone else that didn't live at my address, he promised that he would take care of the problem immediately, I haven't heard from them since then. Guess they didn't like the tables being turned on them when they start receiving calls at night.



You should post his number so all the people who are being harassed by his company can call and harass him back!! Just a thought




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