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missycalrissian

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Sub: Kansas Payday loan help...Please
Tue, 29/01/2008 21:50

I stumbled across this site after worrying (again) all day on whether or not we will have a place to live and food to eat at the end of this month thanks to payday loans. I've learned that it's really the worst mistake I've ever made. I have read through some posts and for the first time, I feel like maybe some one out there may be able to help me with the answers I am looking for. I've been so scared about what is going to happen to myself and my family as a result of having 7 payday loans and a title loan. Can this site really help me?
I am posting this in the hopes that this forum (which seems almost too good to be true :cry:) will be the light at the end of the tunnel that I have been searching for. Here is my information:
Hubby and I fell into hard times and had to obtain a payday loan. As some of you know, one can turn into another, and it quickly did. I now have 7 payday loans and a title loan. I have wondered for a long time if I could just close my checking account and just let them all be returned to the lender and just make arrangements with them from there, but this scares me. I have tried to read and understand Kansas law, but I am still not certain on how to interpret everything. I have tons of questions and concerns. From reading other posts, I believe I need to include information here for help. Here goes....

I am a Kansas Resident
1. A-OK Inc./storefront/ 300.00 loan + 45.00 charge bi weekly/approx.1080.00 total so far.
2. Ace cash Express/storefront/ 400.00 loan + 60.00 finance charge bi weekly/ paid about 1440.00 total so far.
3. Advance America /storefront/ 500.00 loan/ 75.00 finance charge bi weekly/ approx. 1800.00 paid so far (this one is on a pay agreement and almost paid off.
4. Speedy Cash /Storefront/500.00 loan + 75.00 finance charge bi weekly/ approx 900.00 so far
5.Check n Go/ Storefront/400.00 loan + 60.00 finance charge biweekly (2 checks for 230.00) /paid 120.00 so far
6.Advance Payday Loans/ Storefront/ 350.00 loan + 52.50 bi weekly charge/ approx 735.00 total so far
7.Advance Cash/Storefront/ 250.00 loan + 37.50 charge bi weekly/ approx. 900.00 so far
8. Title Loan w/ Anderson Financial Services/ Storefront/ 1500.00 loan/ paid 2200.00 so far

As you can see, we have been paying on these loans for a very long time and will have paid out over 10,000.00 in interest before long. My questions are this. What happens if I close my checking account and put a stop payment on all of these checks? I have every intention of paying them back, but the interest keeps me from paying them down every month. Can they take me to court, or will they work with me on a payment arrangement after I have stopped payment with them? I thought I read somewhere in searching that they can only hold me to 3% of the loan amount monthly until the loan is paid off. We've tried arrangements in the past, but have failed and had to keep re-writing. Many places say that they don't offer any arrangements.
These are all paper checks. Also, I'm not sure what ach payments are, so I'm not sure if I have any. My husband has a direct deposit into our checking account with his paychecks and we have one payment to insurance and one to a student loan that is a pre-authorized debit every month. What are my options?
I can't tell you all how finding this site has helped me this evening. I'm really hoping to finally find some answers here.
Also...My husband is EXTREMELY concerned about each of these places contacting him at work. This could put his job at risk. Is there a way to keep this from EVER happening? I mentioned closing our checking and working with the lenders, but he was adamantly against this because of how he thinks it could affect his job. Can someone please help? I would be eternally grateful!



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stargzr
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Sub: #1 Missy, why dont you call the Kansas dept of corporations or whatTue, 01/29/2008 - 21:50



Missy, why dont you call the Kansas dept of corporations or whatever the state office is in Kansas that oversees payday loans. They can explain to you about the 2 loan rule and maybe even give you some advice about getting out from under these. I know it is really tough but I think if you try to make payment arrangements, stick to it and pay them off one at a time you will feel so much better as each one goes away. Please just call the state agency and see if they can help you. Most are consumer friendly and want to help the people in their state. I hope the best for you and your family


missycalrissian
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Sub: #2 sorry...forgot to log inTue, 01/29/2008 - 20:43



The last post by guest was from me. Seems i forgot to log in. Here is is again...

Hi all...Thank you so much for your responses and support. Sorry for the delay in response. I was hoping for an easy out on this since I have paid so much out on these loans. We have tried making arrangements, some will and others won't (making it extremely hard). Since every bit of money we have goes toward paying the dues every 2 weeks, it's almost impossible to "pay them down". We try, and something always happens. I read somewhere that if I were in default of these loans (no, I have not defaulted yet) that they can't require me to pay any more than 3 % of the loan amount each month. I'm not sure if this is true or not. I am interested in the answer to jaglady17's question..."Quick question - if state law says maximum two loans - how is it that there are so many storefront loans out?"
Does anyone know anything about that? We continually re-arrange our finances each month to accomodate these ridiculous loans and it's really wearing on me. I am at a point where I am ready to take drastic measures to get out of this (too bad I don't know what they are yet, lol). If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. I have been researching laws, but haven't found any loop holes or agencies to help.
Thank you everyone, so much!!


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Sub: #3 Hi all...Thank you so much for your responses and support. SorryTue, 01/29/2008 - 20:40



Hi all...Thank you so much for your responses and support. Sorry for the delay in response. I was hoping for an easy out on this since I have paid so much out on these loans. We have tried making arrangements, some will and others won't (making it extremely hard). Since every bit of money we have goes toward paying the dues every 2 weeks, it's almost impossible to "pay them down". We try, and something always happens. I read somewhere that if I were in default of these loans (no, I have not defaulted yet) that they can't require me to pay any more than 3 % of the loan amount each month. I'm not sure if this is true or not. I am interested in the answer to jaglady17's question..."Quick question - if state law says maximum two loans - how is it that there are so many storefront loans out?"
Does anyone know anything about that? We continually re-arrange our finances each month to accomodate these ridiculous loans and it's really wearing on me. I am at a point where I am ready to take drastic measures to get out of this (too bad I don't know what they are yet, lol). If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. I have been researching laws, but haven't found any loop holes or agencies to help.
Thank you everyone, so much!!


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Sub: #4 Quick question - if state law says maximum two loans - how is itWed, 01/23/2008 - 21:27



Quick question - if state law says maximum two loans - how is it that there are so many storefront loans out?

I know in my state of Florida - they have a central state database they have to log you in as having a loan and having paid your loan to keep you from getting more than one (my state's limitation).

I don't know if there is any legal loophole there.

Good luck with your quest to pay off your loans. We are all here to support you. Do not feel bad - many have been there and you have found the right place for help with this.


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Sub: #5 Missycal, have you tried to ask the storefronts for the payment Wed, 01/23/2008 - 19:32



Missycal, have you tried to ask the storefronts for the payment plan> it sounds like you have not defaulted yet and they can break the payments down to 4 payments. It will be tight for a while but at least you will be done with them. If they are storefronts chances are they are legal and you do have to pay the entire amounts. vollyballmom is right, you want to be very careful about closing your account. We usually recommend that if people are dealing with illegal payday internet lenders that refuse to stop debting an individuals account. In your case you have written actual checks to the storefronts. Please go in and talk to these places and see what can be worked out. SOme people here invoke the payment plan on a few at a time while they continue to reloan on some, whatever works to keep a roof over your head. Try to take a deep breath, talk to these storefronts and hopefully they will work with you. THere is a light at the end of the tunnel and we will be here for you all the way.


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Sub: #6 This is a tough one, if you stop payment on them I have no doubtWed, 01/23/2008 - 18:32



This is a tough one, if you stop payment on them I have no doubt they are going to call your husbands job. The positive things it is not criminal and only one NSF fee.

You have no reason to be ashamed as I'm sure you've noticed many people have fallen into the same trap.

Hopefully someone with more knowledge will post.

I wasn't logged in when I posted and I also started posting (then got side tracked) before volleyballmom posted.


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Sub: #7 This is a tough one, if you stop payment on them I have no doubtWed, 01/23/2008 - 18:28



This is a tough one, if you stop payment on them I have no doubt they are going to call your husbands job. The positive things it is not criminal and only one NSF fee.

You have no reason to be ashamed as I'm sure you've noticed many people have fallen into the same trap.

Hopefully someone with more knowledge will post.


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Sub: #8 From what I can tell, if you are reloaning, they (unfortunately)Wed, 01/23/2008 - 17:46



From what I can tell, if you are reloaning, they (unfortunately) are charging fees allowed by the PDL law...basically $15.00 per $100.


Are these loans in default, because if not, you can see if these PDLs are members of the CFSA and can offer you an EPP, which would allow you to pay off the principal of the loan in 4 installments.

Edit: I just re-read your post and it said you re-write every 2 weeks,


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Sub: #9 One thing to be cautious of is recommending someone close thier Wed, 01/23/2008 - 17:31



One thing to be cautious of is recommending someone close thier account until we know the laws, especially with storefronts and a title loan on this list. All of these loans listed above can take legal action.



missycalrissian-Reading your post, so I understand, do you go in and "re-loan" every 2 weeks? Just want to get a handle on how the finance charges are being paid bi-weekly. Is your title loan on any type of ACH agreement linked to your checking account?

The laws for title loans are loose and do not follow these PDl laws.


missycalrissian
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Sub: #10 Thank you. I have read all of the information you suggested. I iWed, 01/23/2008 - 17:02



Thank you. I have read all of the information you suggested. I indeed want to be EXTREMELY careful if I close my account. I am terrified of talking to my bank though. I'm still not sure if I should talk to my bank about my situation or just call and place stop payments on all of those checks. Can't some pdl's request payment by a different method when a paper check is returned?


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